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at the potential fiscal cliff. speaker boehner can work out with the president. he can't work anything out without this guy's approval. yesterday grover norquist warned of a wave of tea party anger, a tea party two that would dwarf anything we've seen before. let's take a look at the threat from grover. >> understand how ugly the next four years are going to get. everything in obama care that obama didn't want you to focus on or think about, the 90% of his trillion dollar tax increase was pushed over until after he got himself safely re-elected. all those regulations you're now hearing about, okay, that are being -- those all hit after the election. we got four bad years of regulation taxes, he wants to add higher taxes to that. tea party two is going to dwarf tea party one if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> there's a doctor strang love. how many republicans will be willing to stand up to that threat. david corn is here to talk about it, the washington bureau chief for mother joins and the author of "47 percent" he's a member of the gridiron society and john feehery is a republican strategist. g
cliff house speaker john boehner requested time on fox news to publicly declare the president's opening bid a nonstarter. >> i was flabbergasted. we're nowhere. >> treasury secretary tim geithner did the full ginsberg with taped appearances on all five shows. nothing will happen until budget tax rates and the ball is now in their court. >> the only thing that stands in the way of a deal right now is if a group of republican members decide there have been a block because they can't afford the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> how much is theater and how much are the two sides locked into positions that remain far apart? the president's plan called for higher tax rates on the wealthiest americans to the tune of $1.6 trillion over ten years along with the combination of new spending and some spending cuts. mitch mcconnell said he, quote, burst into laughter. still, the white house is making it clear until the republicans counteroffer. >> we didn't say how or how much or who should pay. >> there are a lot of items on the table. the president knows what they are. the question is, what are they
. we talked about being in a stalemate recently in terms of the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner and along with the rest of the leadership has presented an offer to the white house in a letter sent today based off something boles said to the supercommittee last year. you see the offer on the screen. 800 billion through tax reform, 600 billion in health savings, 300 billion in mandatory savings, 300 billion further discretionary savings. it nets to a total of $2.2 trillion in savings. what does it mean? in the letter we know the sticking point is the tax rates. the speaker says, quote, notably the new revenue in the boles plan would not be achieved through higher tax rates, which we continue to oppose and will not agree in order to protect small businesses and our economy. instead new revenue would be generated through pro-growth tax reforms that closes special interest loopholes and deductions while lowering rates. you see in this latest proposal while they offer up pour savings by saying, look, we can tax the rich people through the $800 billion figure. we can find more
a republican counter offer that president obama initial plan to get the country off the fiscal cliff. we have details of what house speaker john boehner calls a bold offer. what if we jump off the cliff? we talk about the budget cliff with the ranking member vis van hollen. egypt constitutional crisis goes on. judges from the highest court say they are afraid to do the jobs. "special report" from washington with breaking news from the middle east starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and my colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: last week, i went on a tour to promote my book "the joy of hate" which took me from florida, to alabama, and georgia. to tennessee. some call this the south with sarcasm. a buddy of mine gave me flick "deliverance" to watch as a joke. but i freaked out, large crowds with mom for daughters and sons for dads. dads for daughters. so many brought food from pumpkin bread to moonshine. that nearly killed me. more unicorns to shake a horn at. each place i went fan of the five turned on by a parent or their child. this was shared activity, the "the five," "red ey
. lawmakers wrestling to make a deal to keep us from going over the so-called fiscal cliff taking to the airwaves. house speaker john boehner rejecting the proposal and calling talks a waste of time and treasury secretary timothy geithner standing firm saying there will be no deal without raising taxes for top earners. a new and unusual storm system bringing inches of rain and strong winds to northern california and parts of the pacific northwest. today's round predicted to be the worst of series that have come already, bringing flooding problems in several areas, but there is more rain to come. the taliban targeting a joint u.s.-afghan base killing at least five afghans. and the gun battled lasted two hours, no americans were hurt in the attack. new developments tonight for america's strongest ally and friend in the middle east, israel. it follows last week's decision by the united nations general assembly to upgrade the palestinian status from observer entity to non-member state, a move both israel and the u.s. voted against. today, israel announcing a decision of its own, the p
, anything, relating to the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think they're coalescing around anything it's for speaker boehner to continue the negotiations and not give a single inch. the gop has done very well over the last few years is in the negotiations with president obama. they've held a hard line to the very end including during the debt limit where john boehner is allowed to say he got 98% of what he wanted. what you have to look for is the splinter that tom cole started last week, heard mr. chris toll say about how the president has an effective bully pulpit he can go around the country and say 98% of americans with a tax cut under my plan, trying to save it for the rich. republicans are coalescing around, if anything, is this idea that in order for the president to move on entitlements, they got to hold this hard line on the bush tax cuts for 250 or above. they don't want any deal that doesn't have to pertain to entitlements. that's why you're seeing the saber rattling that we thought would only be in november continue into december. as of right now there is no clear way forwar
standing in the way of resolving this fiscal cliff, john boehner. who probably now has earned the titles of the worst speaker certainly in our lifetime if not the worst speaker ever in the history of the house of representatives. the guy is just a totals total loser. look. here is where things stand. right? it's not complicated. president obama, we've got this big debt crisis. president obama, two things -- number 1, months ago, he put out a detailed plan. it's in print, and it's online, of how to resolve this fiscal crisis. no. 2, the republicans said we are not going to deal with it. we will take seven weeks off. we will have an election and let the people decide. president obama went out in front of the american people. there was one issue, the central issue. it wasn't the war in iraq iran's nuclear possibility of iran getting nuclear weapons it wasn't peace in the middle east. it wasn't immigration reform. the number 1 was issue was president obama said very clear, we want the wealthiest two percents of americans to pay more in tax after havin
of questions about whether these two will run into each other, whether they will talk about the fiscal cliff. no one is signaling what they might discuss, but house speaker john boehner when asked about tonight's event said that he thinks he might run into the president. >> no doubt. kristin, we're also hearing that the president has made some reference to the possibility of president assad or the fear, the rumor, that president assad might use chemical weapons against his own people, and we know, of course, saddam hussein do that against the kurds. what is the president saying about the prospect of that? >> reporter: well, some tough talk just a few minutes ago. president obama saying that if, in fact, the administration receives serious evidence that syria is, in fact, using chemical weapons, moving chemical weapons, that that would be a red line for this administration. now, we pressed white house press secretary jay carney on this point earlier and said, what specifically does a red line mean and what would the consequences be? the administration being fairly tight-lipped about that, but
out their fiscal cliff counteroffer to the white house. includes $800 billion in new tax revenue. that is roughly half what the president was aiming for. 300 billion in discretionary spending cuts. 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts. now the white house responding just moments ago saying quote, the republican letter released today does not meet the test of balance. they don't like it. i'm joined by dan mitch chill from the cato institute for more on this. dan what do you think. these are a lot of things to occur just in the past few hours. do you feel like there is progress being made? >> there is progress but progress in the wrong direction. the number one thing to understand already even if all the tax cuts were made permanent, tax revenues projected to grow by 6.2% a year. so what they're really debating about how much should it grow even faster than that in order to enable bigger government. 100% of our fiscal problem is on the spending side. obama is being very inflexible on that. republicans i'm afraid will get taken to the cleaners just what happened in 1990 when read
and democrats are at a stalemate again in negotiations to avoid the "fiscal cliff." susan mcginnis reports, key players took to the sunday talk shows to make their stances known. >>> reporter: the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act, america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover. treasury secretary timothy geithner was here on capitol hill last week to present the president's plan to congress. >> i was flabbergasted. you can't be serious! >> reporter: president obama wants $1.6 trillion on the rich, $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs and billions in more spending. >> reporter: mitch mcconnell laughed at geithner during their meeting last week. now geithner says if republicans don't like the plan, it's up to them to present their own ideas. >> what we can't do is try to figure out what works for them. they have to tell us what w
law. we will see what the supreme court decides in less than 30 minutes. >> fiscal cliff tops standof the average middle-class family would have to pay about $2,000 a year more in taxes. house speaker john bain of lands the stalemate on the obama administration. he says they are not taking republicans seriously and plans to close loopholes and lit it deductions without raising taxes. >> i realize of the president may not agree but if there is another way to get revenue from upper income americans that doesn't ruin our economy why don't we consider it? >> we won them to tell the american why they won't do it. >> the democratic controlled senate has are the agreed to extend the bush tax cuts for incomes under $250,000 but let the other tax cut expire. it is predicted their rugby at least a short-term deal released before the end of the year. >> of when it comes to a president's second inauguration at the crowd tends to be smaller. that will be the case again this january. the cross the present obama as inauguration on january 21st will be close to 800,000. that is the estimate right now
. although he hasn't outlined what he thinks should be cut. if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff, it means on january 1st, every american will pay more income tax, between 2,000 to $2,200 for the average family. $500 billion in automatic spending cuts will go into effect. half of that at the pentagon. the other half coming in transportation, food safety and research. economists feel if washington can't strike a deal, the economy will fall back into recession and the unemployment rate will shoot up, rob and paula. >> tahman, the clock is ticking in all of this. where do the talks go from here this week? >> well, the white house said president obama presented his plan last week and the gop leaders shot it down. now, the ball is in the hands of the republicans. right now, it's all about the math. republicans may have to cave on taxes but president obama may have to accept deeper spending cuts. only 18 days left. >> the messy art of compromise. tahman bradley live in washington. >>> and rivers are rising across northern california this morning after three powerful storms blow through in less t
and the white house. house republican leaders have made a counter offer to president obama in the fiscal cliff negotiations proposing to cut to true knowledge with a combination of spending cuts come entitlement reform, and new tax revenues. there was a three page letter signed by speaker boehner, majority leader eric cantor, and other senior republicans including representative paul ryan. and this mornings "washington journal," we heard about tax reductions and credits that would go away if the fiscal cliff passes in january. >> board or series looking into the so-called fiscal cliff, we turn our attention to deductions and tax loopholes. some of them are potentially on the chopping block. joining us from the wall street journal is don mckinnon. thanks so much for joining us today. what are the loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot, but what are they? guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts, and whether you like a particular loophole or not depends on where you sit, i guess. there are lots of loopholes that are deductions. deductions are those that most people are
in california. >> the national news announced the latest on the looming fiscal cliff. house minority leader nets deposing wants to vote. - vote nancy pelosi . >> with a so-called fiscal cliff and higher taxes for all americans looming. >> right now i will say we are nowhere. >> the house speaker blamed the stalemate on the obama administration. he said they are not taking republicans seriously with plans to close loopholes and limited deductions without raising taxes. >> off the president may disagree but the fact is if there is a another way to get revenue from upper income americans that does not hurt our economy why would we not consider it. >> the president wants to in the bush era tax cuts for people making more than a quarter of a million dollars per year. the average middle-class public to pay about 2000 a year more in taxes. >> there is no reason why 98 percent of americans have to see their taxes go up because some members of congress on the republican side want to block tax rate increases for 2 percent of the most wealthy americans. >> nancy pelosi pushing for a house vote. >> we thin
. >> wow, looks bad. ooh. >>> this morning, less than a month now before the big federal fiscal cliff. and we have some details on a war of word between treasury secretary tim geithner and house speaker john boehner. we will also update you on where the negotiations stand. right now by all accounts it is deadlocked right now with the clock continuing to tick down. >> a little testy. a little heated there. >>> and later this half hour, this year's gift wrap champ is here with her expert advice. find out how to wrap the most difficult presents, including a guitar, a candle, which is always difficult around the holidays to give. hope you don't give jenny a candle. >> i will light her fire, but not giving her a candle. you like to wrap. did you learn anything? >> i am horrible at wrapping, but i wanted to learn and get better. so i actually learned some great tips. >> take it to the lovely lady in the mall. >> i will wrap you. >> safety first. wrap it up. >>> but first, 62,000 football fans filled arrowhead stadium in kansas city the day after jovan belcher killed his girlfriend and then
and democrats are in a stalemate in negotiations to avoid that "fiscal cliff." as susan mcginnis reports, key players took to the sunday talk shows to make their case. >> reporter: the white house is already decorated for the holidays, but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act, america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover. treasury secretary timothy geithner was on capitol hill to present the plan to congress. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him, i says, you can't be serious. >> reporter: president obama wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes on the rich, $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs, such as medicare, and $50 billion in stimulus spending. >> the president and the white house have had three weeks and this is the best we've got?! >> reporter: mitch mcconnell laughed at them last week. now geithner says if they don't like the president's plan, the republicans should present the
the fiscal cliff, january 1st, nearly every american will pay more income tax between $2,000 to $2400 for the average family, 2% cut in payroll taxes will disappear, 500 billion dollars in automatic spending cuts in effect, half at the pentagon the other half from educating, transportation, food safety and research. economists fear if washington can strike a deal the economy will fall back into recession and employment will shoot up. tahman bradley, abc news, washington. >>> sarah palin stepped out on the red carpet -- nancy pelosi stepped out on the red carpet for a night of glamour she strolled before photographers at last night's kennedy center honors she talked about efforts to resolve the impasse. >> this is not a night of politics and policy, but since you asked, yes we think it would be a wonderful christmas gift to the american people for the middle class to have a tax cut come january. >> pelosi says she will try to force a house vote on a senate passed bill to break the deadlock. >> the kennedy center on -- -- they received the nation's highest award. >>> let's look outside
're going to hit the fiscal cliff. spending cuts, tax hikes. until lawmakers can reach a deal. house speaker john boehner pr pretty blunt on on where he felt the cliff negotiations were standing. listen. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. >> the nothing he's talking about is the president's plan which was delivered to gop leaders last week by the treasury secretary, timothy geithner. ca calls for $1.6 trillion in new revenue. republicans say that figure is unacceptable. until they present their own plan the white house is standing by that proposal right now. despite the parties and lines in the sand we're joined by two republican law make rs. i've overwhelmed by republican lawmakers this morning. >> you're surrounded, soledad. >> connie mack is with us this morning and mary bono mack. i'm used to it on this show. it's interesting to hear boehner saying, listen, nowhere, period. nowhere. which sounded very final a
's one person. another writes in, what are you willing to compromise with the gop to get this fiscal cliff stuff done? i think president obama preparing to answer some tough questions from voters. over the weekend house speaker john boehner said these negotiations are nowhere. jay carney disagrees with that assessment. now phone calls at this point between president obama and congressional leaders, but the white house says the talks will be ongoing over the next several days, tamron. >> thank you. the president's q and a on twitter comes days after republicans flat-out rejected his opening bid in negotiations. house speaker john boehner appeared on one sunday morning talk show to see the president's proposal was not in his opinion a proposal at all. >> i was flabbergasted and said, you can't be serious. i just have never seen anything like it. we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> treasury secretary tim geithner appeared on five separate sunday morning talk shows. he says it's the go
had quite a day around here, friday. with talks to avoid the fiscal cliff deadlock and everyone saying, the other side is to blame, treasury secretary geithner scheduled a round of interviews, then, friday afternoon, speaker boehner's office called to say he wanted to come on fox news sunday, to tell his side of the story. you'll hear from boehner in a few minutes, but first here's my conversation with tim geithner about the lack of progress in steering away from that cliff. >> chris: secretary geithner, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> nice to see you, chris. >> chris: i spoke with house speaker boehner just before i came over here and he says when you present your plan to him on thursday, he said you can't be serious, and, mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader said he burst into laughter. >> they are in a tough position now and it will be -- obviously hard for them now and they are trying to figure out where they go next and we might need to give them time to figure that out, but what we did is, what you expect from us, we laid out a very detailed, carefully designed set o
quite a day around here friday with talks to avoid the fiscal cliff deadlock, and everyone saying the other side is to blame, pressure secretary geithner scheduled a ground of interviews. then friday afternoon, speaker boehner's office called to say he wanted to come on fox news sunday to tell his side of the story. you will hear from bain -- john bainner a few minutes. first my conversation with tim geithner about the lack of progress in steering away from the cliff. >> secretary geithner, welcome back to fox news sunday. >> nice to see you, chris. >> i spoke with house speaker boehner before you came over here. he said when you presented your plan to him on thursday he said, "you can't be serious" and mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, said he burst into laughter. >> chris, they are in kind of a tough position now. it's obviously a little hard for them now and they are trying to figure out where they go next. we might need to give them a little bit of time to figure out where they go next. but what we did, we laid out a very detailed, carefully-designed set of spending, sav
and the election wasn't over and we didn't have the prospect of going over the fiscal cliff. today the house republicans in a big development put out a plan and i am sure it is not on its face acceptable to the president and the democrats here but interestingly it has the same total number of savings and tax revenues as the president does over 10 years, $2.2 trillion. that is a lot more spending and entitlement reform in the president plan -- republican land and the democratic plan but now they can fill things in and the president has to be at the table to close the deal. he has the mandate to do it. >>neil: part of the mandate means both sides should give a little. obviously the republican plan has a debt commission feel to it but beside that i am wondering if it and tough and i know you are leaving the senate and i have always said, and i am not blowing you smoke you are one who tries to find areas of agreement and move the ball forward and we can be dogmatic all we want but in the end, you have reminded me, senator, it is about getting things done and right now washington is the hatfields
. >> how speaker john boehner said right now, we are nowhere in terms of the fiscal cliff negotiation. as the president agree with that assessment? >> no, he doesn't. i think aesop secretary geithner over the weekend. another sunday shows. fairly clearly expressing the president's position to talk about the proposal that the president has pafford and express our belief that there has been progress in that we can achieve a bipartisan agreement. the obstacle remains, at this point, the refusal to acknowledge by republican leaders that there is no deal that achieve the kind of balance necessary without raising on the top 2% of americans, and we look forward to the presentation by republican leaders and their id ideas for spending cuts come as you know. as you know, secretary geithner has pafford a proposal that includes $600 billion in detailed spending cuts in health care and other entitlement programs, and that comes on top of over a trillion dollars in spending cuts as part of the budget control act. and it is contending with our proposals for how to achieve the kinds of revenue from
on this fiscal cliff issue. he particularly cited your report which he described as providing imperfect but fair middle ground as a way of breaking this political stalemate. he's saying only the president would adopt your approach that maybe this stalemate could be broken. what do you think about that? >> (laughing) well, i haven't seen the letter, as i think you know. it's nice that the speaker would give me some credit for trying to do that. but what he is referring to is when i testified before the super committee, i tried to show these guys that if they truly wanted to ghettoing that they could ghettoing at that time. and basically as an example on discretionary spending they were talking about cuts between $200-$400 billion. look, ghettoing on $300 billion. on health care between $500 billion and $700 billion. there was $600 billion. another mandatory that got that number that came out is $300 billion. both were talking about changing to the superlative c.p.i. so you could get $200 billion there and you'd have $400 billion come out of interest. that would be $1.8 trillion on top of the 1.3
question and answer session about the fiscal cliff. hugh says, no one makes better use of technology than our president. and mindy says, she loves the presidential seal on the cover of the laptop. i agree, mcimi. we've got more of speaker boehner's offer. first, we want to hear what you think. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> we're back on "politicsnation" with more on speaker boehner's counteroffer to president obama. the republican house leader wants $2.2 trillion in spending cuts. and how would he do it? republicans refuse to raise taxes on the rich. unbelievable. instead, they want to slash billions from health care, raise the medicare eligibility age and hack away billions from entitlement programs. t
an alternative, either to the fiscal cliff or to what the president is offering. the president's plan was put on the table last week. it was not that well with president on. speaker boehner and others. stuart: i wonder, as an insider, among democrats, and that is what you are, simon, i want you to tell me, what plans does the president or any other democrats, have to reform social entitlement? >> first of all, if you remember well, stuart, mitt romney and the republicans beat up on president obama for the last three years for cutting medicare at $716 billion. he has already showed he is willing to take a big bite out of a major entitlement program. stuart: hold on a second. i do remember it. that is not reform. that is not reforming the structure of entitlement programs. that is the issue. >> i think the focus has been on medicare. the attention now needs to be on medicare inside the aca. there were large structural reforms in the way healthcare was playing out. in fact, last year, we had a slower rate of growth and health care spending that we have had in quite a time. whether president has
cliff. stay right here. >>> i'm ali velshi. this is your money. house speaker john boehner called white house efforts to make a deal preposterous. the republican counter we're hearing about which extends the bush tax cuts for everybody including the wealthiest americans won't get washington any closer to a deal. washington's reckless behavior is already having serious economic consequences. i'm going to show you how and make sure you understand the truth about that raising taxes would mean for the economy, but first, set aside the doom and gloom of the fiscal cliff for a moment, let's look at today's money menu. check out auto sales up big in november. sales of gm cars were up 3.4%. ford saw a 6.5% jump in sales and chrysler shot up 14%. u.s. autos are on track to see their best sales month nationwide since february of 2008 as the big three continues to put the auto bailout in the rear view mirror. ford never took the bailout money from the government. what's sibehind the surge in au sales, no short cuts. the jobs outlook is looking better. access to finance is improving if you want to
our nation from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. the deadline now less than a month away. treasury secretary tim geithner saying it's up to republican lawmakers to make the next move to prevent mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts. and house speaker john boehner say republicans have a plan that would provide as much as 800 billion dollars in new revenue over the next decade. they might also consider eliminating tax deductions on high income earners. a third powerful storm hitting northern california and the pacific northwest in less than a week. wicked weather causing flooding with rain falling at the rate of an inch per hour at times. 100,000 people at this point have lost power and people say the damage was not as bad as they thought it would be. more rain expected. i'm harris falkner, now, let's get you back to huckabee. ♪ >> when he i was white house press secretary, afaced a roomful of reporters on a daily basis so i'm used to getting tough questions, been a while since you've been grilled on stage, but since i'm guest hosting for governor huckabee in front of a
] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> negotiating a deal on the fiscal cliff. they say a good compromise leaves everybody unhappy, but can house speaker john boehner rise above the partisan politics and still escape the wrath of his tea party? we'll ask former house majority leader dim armey. >>> and we've seen some major executive shake-up these year. management guru jeffrey seinfeld will join us to grade the hires and fires of 2012. >> the third hour of "squawk box" begins right now. >>> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc first in business worldwide. i'm joe kernen along with becky quick. andrew ross sorkin is off today. our guest host this morning, steve mcmahon, co-founder of purple strategies and david walker, founder and ceo of the comeback america initiative. more from them in just a minute. first, we have some headlines for you this morning. let's begin with the markets and the looming fiscal cliff. the dow finishing november lower. and that is the second consecutive month. the blue championships fell .5% in november. 3% since the start of october. the nasdaq an
the fiscal cliff. even talk about political strategy sounds an awful lot like posturing. we heard it from secretary geithner who said republicans seem to be in a hard place on this, not knowing what to do next. speaker boehner said, look, democrats won the election but they seem to have forgotten that republicans still control the house. at this point if there is any middle ground that has been found, it's happening behind closed doors. otherwise, publicly these lines in the sand do not appear to be any kind of shifting sand. >> all right. so publicly the lines in the sand. but what about face-to-face meeting? when is the next face-to-face meeting with the fiscal cliff. have they even attempted to schedule a meeting to talk about what could happen in the next few days? >> reporter: when we went into this weekend, there was an official who is very familiar with this situation who said that the white house and these congressional lead whose have the power to get past this impasse did not have any kind of future meetings on the books. we certainly didn't hear about any of those meetings on t
the fiscal cliff a joke. this morning the man who made that offer is telling the other er e it's time to put up or shut up. >> and the speaker of the house says the president knows what republicans want but with just 29 days left, it's looking as though both sides are playing a game of political chicken. bill plante is at the white house. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. and good morning out west. that's right. 29 days until the fiscal cliff. the real deadline could be even closer. one of the negotiators tells cbs news that to actually get the deal done by the end of the year a plan needs to be in place by but at nd-december. ut at the moment, very few are optimistic about that. >> t >> there's no path to an ag agreement. thates not involve republicans acknowledging that rates have to go up for the wealthiest americans. geithneury secretary tim ompromisetalked tough on sunday. promising any compromise must n thede a tax rate increase on the wealthy. >> the only thing that stands in the way of an agreement that's wa ood for the american economy is that a group of republicans we
the white house and congressional republicans, just 29 days to go before the u.s. hits the fiscal cliff. both sides are blaming each other. timothy geithner pushing the gop to offer specific ideas and predicts they will eventually yield on raising tax rates on the wealthy. house speaker john boehner standing firm against higher taxes. sgr we' >> we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. >> why does it make sense for the country to force tax increases on all americans because of a small group of republicans won't extend tax rates for 2% of americans. there's no reason why that should happen. >> democratic strategy from bgr joining us. we'll always get a standoff at some point in these negotiations. is it a terminal standoff? when does somebody blink? >> it's not a matter of who will blink or not. i think that the republicans are trying to go tit for tat with the president. you have to realize that the president has the bully pulpit and the ability to command media. so the republicans feel the need to res
're getting more reaction now from the white house to the fiscal cliff counteroffer that house republicans have put forward today. let's go back to our chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin. she has new information for us. jessica, we heard white house's blistering public response to speaker boehner's counterproposal. but will they sit down to actually negotiate where things stand now? >> reporter: well, wolf, in response to this offer, they are not going to sit down and negotiate. they will be open to talking. they will be open to receiving phone calls. but, you know, the white house has said that if speaker boehner presents a counteroffer in response to what secretary geithner presented last week, they will begin negotiations, they think this is not a serious offer and so they say this will not be the start of those negotiations. >> what is the one thing the white house hates the most about this republican counterproposal? >> reporter: the fact that it does not raise rates on the wealthy. they say that it actually would reduce rates on the wealthy. they argue that it also doesn
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